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Post by Tanya on Jun 22, 2017 12:44:57 GMT -5
Journals are more private. Journals show more emotion.
Oh, wait... those are private journals aka. diaries. **gotcha**
Private journals are more related to blogs than to Journalism. (just clearing up my mess)
^^^they do have the word journal in their name or in their definition so.... they are similar. Try not to get them confused.
Journals are a branch of Journalism. The kind more often found in a book than on tv, websites, news centers etc.
Feel free to expand...
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Post by DrLeftover on Jun 22, 2017 12:49:14 GMT -5
as I understand it (for what that's worth)
One class of writing is never meant to be read by anybody except the writer during their lifetime.
The other is written for others.
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Post by Tanya on Jun 22, 2017 13:17:59 GMT -5
Doc, normally that is true. But over time Diaries turned into Journals because some wanted those details in their diaries known to people. It's the emotional side of those diary writers showing themselves because they feel the need to be understood or to be heard and respected or in many cases, feel the need to teach what they know through their own experiences.
Journals were very common in their day. The freedom to express themselves in any way they see fit tends to have a powering effect on themselves and others as well. I kept journals away from Journalism for the very reason you gave. (but wanted it noted they are two parts of a whole or were at one time)
Journalism by definition is the complete opposite of Journals. (as you duly noted)
Most will write along the journalism boundary more often than they ever will a journal. In today's society, people prefer to keep emotions hidden. (I'm just not one of them)
To me, most of the things that fall under journalism are boring.
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Post by WastedSpace on Jun 23, 2017 10:34:43 GMT -5
The word "journal" originally comes from the same root as "diurnal", meaning "of the day". Both journaling and journalism are essentially just writing about the day, the times, "what's up" and "what's going down". The difference? Ism. "A suffix that forms abstract nouns of action, state, condition, doctrine". According to Wiktionary. A journal is simply writing of the day. Perhaps journalism is when the writing of the day serves a certain state, doctrine, condition, or action?
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Post by DrLeftover on Jun 23, 2017 11:41:46 GMT -5
I will take exception to one point of Ms Tanya's excellent post.
This sentence:
Have you seen what passes for "journalism" on the major commercial US TV networks.
How many times do reporters on the scene of a major disaster ask: "How do you feel about....."?
Their "feelings" about a given event are irrelevant, a NEWS report is supposed to be "just the facts, ma'am".
You can see the same sort of glurge every time the Olympics roll around and NBC goes off on a tangent about the heart wrenching story of some athlete and their grandmother.
That is NOT sports coverage any more than somebody's feelings about their cat being shredded by a tornado is news.
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Post by WastedSpace on Jun 23, 2017 11:47:42 GMT -5
I honestly think world news is a major problem in society. Let's get all worried about starving children in Africa, but not even know our next door neighbor's name. Globalism (and the journalism that supports it) only scatters community bonds. Or at least that's how I FEEL about it.
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Post by DrLeftover on Jun 23, 2017 13:06:24 GMT -5
.... Or at least that's how I FEEL about it.
I need a drink.
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Post by Tanya on Jun 23, 2017 13:32:44 GMT -5
Fine Doc, I'll let you keep your point. Just keep in mind one thing... I haven't paid that close attention to the news or any journalistic avenue that I didn't read due to the heavy foot traffic on the Yak for a very long time. Emotion in writing is easy for me to ignore. Why? Because I put so much in my own writing. But I do understand your point and after I am done laughing from just above this post, I'll state your point a little more head on. Oh look, I made a pun. Erm... When it comes to journalism... (and this was proven a very long time ago) No feelings/emotion should exist from the journalist. This used to be expected from the reporter once upon a time. and Readers should remember what journalists do and keep the emotions out of it while collecting the facts. In conclusion: (thought I did this already. ) Journals are emotion-based 80-90% of the time. Some hide their journals and some share them. Journalism is fact-based and emotions used to not factor in. (all in the wording) By today's standards... the two are not nearly all that different. I think this went full circle again. hahaha
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