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Post by WastedSpace on Jun 21, 2017 9:49:01 GMT -5
This seems like the best place to put this. Since I talk about fiction so much, that may seem like what I write the most, but that simply isn't true. I've always somewhat preferred writing non-fiction essays, although a few teachers told me I even wrote those "too literary". However, fiction is easier to talk about for some reason. Perhaps because the gravity of reality can be expressed by other characters or events. Instead of pondering cannibalism as myself, a fictional character can be a cannibal.  My childhood greatly influences my writing. Of course, this is probably true for most writers, but I find it especially noticeable in my own work. Readers who are "outsiders" to my life may not get the references, but my fictional worlds are magic mirror reflections of my own reality. Some events represented more truthfully than others. I grew up in a dirty dying steel mill town, so a certain volcanic city-state in my Ea world is an industrial and military superpower on the brink of collapse. My mother accidentally stabs me in the head? A character in my story gets stabbed by her mom too. Many characters are heavily influenced by people I know, some more obviously than others, although I do try to avoid "self-insert" in my fiction. Author avatars seem to be frowned upon. Thoughts or feelings? |
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Post by Tanya on Jun 21, 2017 12:58:36 GMT -5
I tend to write along the line of nonfiction (reality) and fiction(story). Most of my past stories had a bit of both in them. Honestly, from what I've seen you write, you fall into the same line. I'm considering a re-write of the boards again. Just nonfiction and fiction boards because you and I are not the only ones who combine the two in most things we say as well as write. It's settling on what to call the boards that I'll struggle with. haha Author avatars are only frowned upon when they look exactly like the author. The reason behind that has been explained in so many different ways, I'm beginning to wonder what the point was, to begin with. Hmm... I am curious how much your actual writing would change if you did in fact place yourself directly into your stories. You tend to explain too much. Not a bad thing really but when you enter into the actual writing, do it less or not at all. Understand? I tend to narrate pretty much everything I write. I used to go as far as narrate my poems as well and still do at times. Usually in a before or after context. The problem is while we think we are explaining what we're doing or why we are doing it or just giving an overview before digging into our writing; what we really are doing is confusing those who are reading and removing our actually writing from their minds. I like your combination of reality and story. It's so much a part of you, you can't help but combine it all. Those are my thoughts... (there always more floating around the surface tho) My feeling is this: Go with what feels right to you. Don't explain it because explaining it makes it all go away. Just write. Explanations can come after. You're my only member that I know of who doesn't care if others use what you write so this is for you..... Combine your ideas and turn it into something that can be seen, felt, heard, tasted and swallowed whole. Yes, there really is a pun there. The reason I say this is because once you do, then we can break it all down and create something new from it or take what you have and turn it into something much more in depth. Details, as you know, are important but sometimes those details get lost and you don't strike me as someone who wants details lost. Your characters wouldn't allow it.  |
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Post by WastedSpace on Jun 21, 2017 13:27:36 GMT -5
I tend to write along the line of nonfiction (reality) and fiction(story). Most of my past stories had a bit of both in them. Honestly, from what I've seen you write, you fall into the same line. I'm considering a re-write of the boards again. Just nonfiction and fiction boards because you and I are not the only ones who combine the two in most things we say as well as write. It's settling on what to call the boards that I'll struggle with. haha Author avatars are only frowned upon when they look exactly like the author. The reason behind that has been explained in so many different ways, I'm beginning to wonder what the point was, to begin with. Hmm... I am curious how much your actual writing would change if you did in fact place yourself directly into your stories. You tend to explain too much. Not a bad thing really but when you enter into the actual writing, do it less or not at all. Understand? I tend to narrate pretty much everything I write. I used to go as far as narrate my poems as well and still do at times. Usually in a before or after context. The problem is while we think we are explaining what we're doing or why we are doing it or just giving an overview before digging into our writing; what we really are doing is confusing those who are reading and removing our actually writing from their minds. I like your combination of reality and story. It's so much a part of you, you can't help but combine it all. Those are my thoughts... (there always more floating around the surface tho) My feeling is this: Go with what feels right to you. Don't explain it because explaining it makes it all go away. Just write. Explanations can come after. You're my only member that I know of who doesn't care if others use what you write so this is for you..... Combine your ideas and turn it into something that can be seen, felt, heard, tasted and swallowed whole. Yes, there really is a pun there. The reason I say this is because once you do, then we can break it all down and create something new from it or take what you have and turn it into something much more in depth. Details, as you know, are important but sometimes those details get lost and you don't strike me as someone who wants details lost. Your characters wouldn't allow it. The lines between reality and story are so fine anyway.  I have maybe one character that could be considered self-insert, and I only wish I looked like her.  She is the character who just speaks as I normally would. It's kind of strange....I can't read other people, I don't understand vocal tone or facial expression, but apparently I can write other people very believably. They don't explain things how I do. No, only that one character does that. What I explain has everything to do with who I write as, and that may be either my greatest strength or weakness: having between 4-6 point-of-view characters. It reminds me of a soap opera, so maybe General Hospital is a greater influence than I thought. General Hospital meets InuYasha. |
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Post by Tanya on Jun 21, 2017 13:32:48 GMT -5
Hmm... ever considered writing in script format then?
There is a story form of journalism that might be right up your alley. It goes well with how you think and how you write. So does comic writing for that matter minus the pictorial views.
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Post by WastedSpace on Jun 22, 2017 8:02:02 GMT -5
I've written a few scripts, but it just feel too....rigid. I've also done several comics, mostly in collaboration with former friends, and that might be something I get back into. Perhaps I could revamp the "Madness" series from middle school....
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Post by Tanya on Jun 22, 2017 11:24:51 GMT -5
Structured? Unnatural? You did a comic series in middle school? That's kind of impressive since kids were barely learning structure in writing in middle school. You can write anything you put your mind to write and you know that. Some forms of writing come more naturally than others but all of it is doable. Ever considered the journalistic avenue of writing? (a cross between journal writing and journalism) Honestly, your journals more or less fall into this already. The only piece really missing is the details. This reminds me of something I still need to do which is define Journalism.(wanders off to do that now before I forget again) |
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Post by WastedSpace on Jun 22, 2017 12:33:16 GMT -5
I would say "stifling", but that isn't quite true. No medium really "stifles" the creative flow per se, it only presents different challenges, and being too structured would indeed be one of them. Especially when writing some of the more psychedelic scenes, like merging consciousnesses and stuff. Sex and combat also seem like they would be even more difficult to write scripts for. But there are few forms of writing I haven't dabbled in a bit, which is why I try to avoid labeling my work by style or genre. Like I said, as arrogant as it sounds, I was always ahead of the other students in school. At least intellectually. I was still usually behind on everything else, because I was too busy writing comics and reading Nietzsche. Madness wasn't a very good comic though. It was about a serial killer named Madness, drawn stick person style, who went around just....killing people. My co-writer and I occasionally inserted stick-selves, only to make Madness kill us off in awful ways. The other students who didn't beat us up loved Madness. |
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Post by Tanya on Jun 22, 2017 13:02:10 GMT -5
Actually, I beg to differ on the sexual script writing. It does, however, require a more....direct approach, however. Sadly, I can't share them here. Well, this forum is wrapped in labels. Good thing I added this board which makes the use of any unnecessary. I write in free-form with poetry and I know others use a similar idea when writing their stories. It actually took talking to you and reading through several boards on a popular writing forum for me to remember that though.(which is in truth, is how this board came about) Everyone is good at something. The fact you were bad at something too makes you approachable. Arrogance is never admitting to having flaws. You have a slightly conceited outlook on yourself and it's not even close to the same as being arrogant. Ah, sounds like that comic was a defense mechanism you used. It was that same general idea that got me writing more poetry early on. As to not being good, in the eyes of the beholder, dear. Sounds like some did like it. It also sounds like even though you don't think it was good, it still did the job it needed to do for you. Add in the fact you mentioned a possible revamp of it and the comic is still in your mind clearly. Just making observations. I'm done suggesting ideas. The ideas are already in your head anyway. |
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Post by WastedSpace on Jun 23, 2017 10:06:07 GMT -5
Hrm....Are private messages on Proboards subject to the same rules as public posts? I CAN use labels, although my husband would probably be better about that. He labels everything he owns in one way or another, whether it be mentally or physically. Gotta have specific shoes for climbing, hiking, skating, working....And worse, he tries to fit into certain labels himself. I understand though. Some would argue that arrogant and conceited are synonyms, but I see where a distinction can be made. The word arrogance (according to linguists) comes from Proto-Indo-European *h₃reǵ- and *h₂éd. At/near and just/right/straight, respectively. Assuming one is nearly always right? Conceit is from *ḱóm and *keh₂p-, by/near/with and "to grasp" or "seize". Near grasping? Near understanding? Conceited can also mean fanciful or witty. I wrote a lot of poetry back then as well, but most of that was in my first couple years of high school. Then my brother died, my mom and I started drinking more, and I quit writing altogether for awhile. Just did juvenile delinquent stuff for awhile instead. Since spring of last year, I've had a major academic, creative, sensual, and spiritual revival. Like those concepts aren't closely related anyway. The way I write poetry has changed since I met my husband. He really has a passion for music, and that healing energy is very infectious. Most of my poetry is more like lyrics, something I sing instead of speak, although I'm not sure anyone can tell the difference on paper. Or screen. Maybe the cursing gives it away, that seems more common in music than poetry. |
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Post by DrLeftover on Jun 23, 2017 11:45:28 GMT -5
We could add a sub-board on another service for 'adult' topics.
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Post by Tanya on Jun 23, 2017 13:11:40 GMT -5
WastedSpace PM's are still part of ProBoards so that would be a yes. By definition, the ones you gave, then you are both..... Are you saying the poems you've written/shared here were lyrical? *raises eyebrow* haha, it is more common in music than poetry but cursing can still be found. Why? Written music is poetry. DrLeftover?
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Post by DrLeftover on Jun 23, 2017 13:56:54 GMT -5
I spent several years running an adult story website on a free provider based in, of all places, Russia.
There are other options for a forum on other services that aren't quite so finicky about content.
It might be an option to provide an outlet for content that isn't PG rated.
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Post by Tanya on Jun 23, 2017 15:28:13 GMT -5
and do what with it exactly? link it? What other services?
A friend of mine who joined here had asked about a forum that allowed adult content and is even willing to pay for it but I denied him for now because this forum wouldn't be able to be transferred. Starting over can be a bit of a pain sometimes but is something I've considered for later on down the line. I knew I wanted adult stuff around but was willing to do without it for others and I also knew you had a lot of adult content stuff of your own. Sucks having to sensor thoughts and content but I didn't really think there would be a big call for it. It's why I went PB. (I was tired of Zeta all around) I don't know much about any of the other free platforms except BB which I never really cared for anyway. What Jazzy has allows for 'adult' in a hidden capacity at least but I'd never post my adult stories there. haha But the platform is really nice and not all that different from PB.
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Post by DrLeftover on Jun 23, 2017 16:55:41 GMT -5
Who said anything about 'starting over'?
I was able to put together a VERY simple forum in a matter of a couple of hours of arguing with the options and menus, while reasonably sober, and made it work.
Granted, most of it is the 'default' setting, the 'permissions' options are a mess, and some of the 'threads' and 'forum' numberings are "interesting"... but the damned thing works. mostly
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Post by Tanya on Jun 23, 2017 17:05:42 GMT -5
well if not starting over, it would fall under multiple forums to deal with. I've done that before when I ran my forum, 'helped' with Web's and a couple of others as well. It tends to be a lot of work.
Funny enough, simple was never my strong suit. I am a bit of a neat freak on the PC especially. (probably because making themes and organizing have been the main thing others wanted from me on their own forums and because I enjoy making themes) I'm not OCD or anything but I am the type to want more than 'well, it works.' lol
lmao All those things are easy to fix as long as it's not on the forum hosts end.
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She is the character who just speaks as I normally would. It's kind of strange....I can't read other people, I don't understand vocal tone or facial expression, but apparently I can write other people very believably. They don't explain things how I do. No, only that one character does that.
